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kind regards - kees
 
kind regards - kees
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Thanks for the input.
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Bear in mind that the page is not done yet (feb 10) so it will change a bit when I pull myself together and get it done.
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About your question: Damn good question! At first I thought it was because I used LIAISON_UNIF; this makes the 'press' face not rotate and deform, like it was welded to the source of the pressure. But! and this is a big but, if I remove LIAISON_UNIF and and apply e.g. PRESS_REP instead of FORCE_FACE (-Fz), the pressure face starts to bend - and that just doesn't make sense. I get some errors on the calculation that might be related. As far as I can tell the two meshes are too different and the 'calculation might produce incorrect results' - I however, haven't had time to refine mesh and play around with it recently. Do you have a suggestion?
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I will investigate more when I get the time - right now Im playing with beams and shells for some semi-actual work :)
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  !  l'angle forme par le vecteur normal courant a 1 face et le vecteur normal moyenne, au noeud  N6559 , est superieur a 10 degres et !
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  ! vaut  16.  degres.
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  !  PROJ_CHAMP (ou LIAISON_MAIL) :                                              !
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  !  Nombre de noeuds projet�s sur des mailles un peu distantes : 22.            !
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  !  (la distance � la maille est sup�rieure � 1/10i�me du diam�tre de la maille) !
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  !                                                                              !
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  !  Le noeud NS22841 est projet� le plus loin � la distance 0.154085            !
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Two images: with and without LIAISON_UNIF - as you can see, without unif the hinge applies torsion to the pin that it sits on, and it shouldn't do that. Something is amiss.
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[[Image:Claws_assm_without_UNIF.png]]
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without_UNIF.png
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[[Image:Claws_assm_with_UNIF.png]]
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with_UNIF.png

Revision as of 02:03, 10 February 2010

Hoi Claus

Very nice! This coupling with liaison_mail is a item that has been interested me for long but never had time to study it. This makes it all much easier.

One question about your calculation: how do you prevent the rotation of the component with the pressure applied to it? Maybe I just didnot read carefully enough and I overlooked the obvious.

Thank you once again.

kind regards - kees


Thanks for the input.

Bear in mind that the page is not done yet (feb 10) so it will change a bit when I pull myself together and get it done.

About your question: Damn good question! At first I thought it was because I used LIAISON_UNIF; this makes the 'press' face not rotate and deform, like it was welded to the source of the pressure. But! and this is a big but, if I remove LIAISON_UNIF and and apply e.g. PRESS_REP instead of FORCE_FACE (-Fz), the pressure face starts to bend - and that just doesn't make sense. I get some errors on the calculation that might be related. As far as I can tell the two meshes are too different and the 'calculation might produce incorrect results' - I however, haven't had time to refine mesh and play around with it recently. Do you have a suggestion?

I will investigate more when I get the time - right now Im playing with beams and shells for some semi-actual work :)

  !  l'angle forme par le vecteur normal courant a 1 face et le vecteur normal moyenne, au noeud  N6559 , est superieur a 10 degres et !
  ! vaut  16.  degres.
  !  PROJ_CHAMP (ou LIAISON_MAIL) :                                               !
  !  Nombre de noeuds projet�s sur des mailles un peu distantes : 22.             !
  !  (la distance � la maille est sup�rieure � 1/10i�me du diam�tre de la maille) !
  !                                                                               !
  !  Le noeud NS22841 est projet� le plus loin � la distance 0.154085             !


Two images: with and without LIAISON_UNIF - as you can see, without unif the hinge applies torsion to the pin that it sits on, and it shouldn't do that. Something is amiss.

Claws assm without UNIF.png

without_UNIF.png

Claws assm with UNIF.png

with_UNIF.png